Talk:The 9 Levels of PU and Seduction Mastery

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i think it's wrong that we are over sterotyping people here. i mean, most regular frustrated chumps get some once in a while, can close some deals, can get some phones, yet they dont really know "how" they do it, or why did it work. mainly luck plays here.


Overstereotyping? These are just generalizations. Like I have explained before, you can't take everything on a PERSONAL basis, otherwise we'd have approximately 6 billion articles on what a GPUA or AFC or whatever is.

Now, about your luck statement, which is highly redundant:

An AFC (Average Frustrated Chump)...

Knows he has a problem attracting chicks...thinks he'll eventually solve it by doing the same things over-and-over...or that one day Oprah will give him that one piece of advice that will make the difference. Knows players exist, secretly wishes to be one, doesn't know how. Has heard the phrase "Let's Just Be Friends" from just about every chick he's taken out on a date. Depends on luck for all his success. Has that "one girl" he's trying to figure out how to get. May have found mASF but still can't admit to himself he's an AFC...or miraculously realizes how great a PUA he is already is going to become as when he can finally PU that one special girl after reading stuff in ASF for 30 seconds. All he has to do is just post one request for advice on the forum and start it with "This isn't one-itis, but there's this one girl who..."

The above is quoted from the article, which describes an AFC. More or less, your statement is congruent with this section of the article. Any more explanation needed?

themuz 17:23, 27 August 2006 (PDT)


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